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THE ADVANCED DARK CLOUD GUIDE TO FISHING Informational sources are listed in [brackets] near their contributions. Credit is assigned on a first-come basis. I Getting Started II Bait III HOW TO FISH IV Fishin' Holes V Types of Fish and Their Point Values VI Updates/Corrections I Getting Started Before you can catch anything, you'll need a place to fish, a fishing pole, and some bait (covered in the next two sections). The first fishing place is the pond in Norune Village, an Atla found on an early floor of Divine Beast Cave. You won't receive the fishing pole until much later, however- it's a gift from Annet. She gives it to you when you complete her house, the final piece of which is on the 12th or 13th floor of Divine Beast Cave. II Bait Different types of fish are attracted to different types of bait, and some fish can only be caught with a particular kind. Bait is listed in alphabetical order. Here's what I've found so far: NOTE: Common freshwater fish include Nilers, Nonkies, Gummies, Gobblers, Baku Baku, and Tartons. When I say that a particular type of bait attracts all common freshwater fish, these are the types that I'm talking about. Common saltwater fish are Piccolies, Bobos, and Bons. For more information on each type of fish, see V Types of Fish and Their Point Values. Also note that defeated enemies won't always leave items behind. Bait is listed in alphabetical order. BATTANS attract all common freshwater fish- extremely well. FOUND: Chests Haley Holies (found in Wise Owl Forest: Territories 4-11, Territory 13) -when defeated with a weapon SOLD FOR: 210 gilda BOMB NUTS attract most fish (fresh and salt water), but not very well- the fish will rarely bite hard enough for you to real them in. FOUND: Chests Stolen from Halloweens (Wise Owl Forrest: territory 10 back floor, territories 13-16) -use a weapon with the steal ability, like Xiao's Bandit Slingshot (found in large chests after Floor 8 of Divine Beast Cave.) SOLD FOR: 45 gilda CARROTS attract Umadakaras (at Peanut Pond in Matataki village). FOUND: Chests SOLD FOR: 150 gilda EVAS attract all common saltwater fish. FOUND: Chests in Shipwreck; Sold at Ruty's Shop (Queens) Gunnies (Shipwreck levels 1-5) when defeated with a weapon SOLD FOR: 150 gilda GOOEY PEACHES attract most fish, but not very well- the fish will rarely bite hard enough for you to real them in. FOUND: Chests Stolen from Cannibal Plants (Wise Owl Forrest: territories 2-16) -use a weapon with the steal ability, like Xiao's Bandit Slingshot (found in large chests after Floor 8 of Divine Beast Cave.) SOLD FOR: 40 gilda MIMIS attract all common freshwater fish. FOUND: Chests; Sold for 400 gilda at Matataki: Wise Owl Shop Earth Diggers (found in Wise Owl Forest: Territory 2 back floor, Territory 7 back floor, Territories 10-13 ) -when defeated with a weapon SOLD FOR: 200 gilda MINIONS attract all common freshwater fish. FOUND: Chests Stolen from Earth Diggers (found in Wise Owl Forest: Territory 2 back floor, Territory 7 back floor, Territories 10-13 ) -use a weapon with the steal ability, like Xiao's Bandit Slingshot (found in large chests after Floor 8 of Divine Beast Cave. If you can find one, I'd recommend picking up normal bait this way, as you'll get a minion almost every time. Be careful- earth diggers are dangerous) SOLD FOR: 200 gilda PETIT FISH attract all common freshwater fish. FOUND: Chests; Sold at Ruty's Shop (Queens) Opars (found in Divine Beast Cave: Floor 7 back floor, Floors 12 & 13) -when defeated with a weapon SOLD FOR: 190 gilda POISONOUS APPLES attract only Mardan Garayans. These are the extremely rare, mystical "Fish of Happiness" that only appear at Dusk at the Matataki Waterfall and Muska Racka Oasis. [Vico and Jon B.] See V Types of Fish for more. FOUND: Chests Stolen from Witch Illzas (Matataki: Wise Owl Forrest Territories 6-16) -use a weapon with the steal ability, like Xiao's Bandit Slingshot (found in large chests after Floor 8 of Divine Beast Cave). SOLD FOR: 60 gilda POTATO CAKES attract only the better common fish (Nilers, Tartons). They run out quickly, making it difficult to catch anything. FOUND: Chests SOLD FOR: 225 gilda PRICKLIES attract all common freshwater fish. FOUND: Chests; Sold for 400 gilda at Matataki: Wise Owl Shop Dashers (found in Divine Beast Cave levels 1-6) King Pricklies (found in Wise Owl Forrest: Territories 4-10) -when defeated with a weapon SOLD FOR: 200 gilda THROBBING CHERRIES attract most fish, but not very well- the fish will rarely bite hard enough for you to real them in. FOUND: Chests SOLD FOR: 50 gilda III HOW TO FISH The in-game manual is incredibly vague on this point. Unlike other fishing games, you don't have to fight the fish in Dark Cloud- if you can get your hook to sink into them, they're yours. The idea is to press the X button at exactly the right time. You DON'T want to press it: -when the fish looks like it's biting -when the controller starts to vibrate - more than once. It doesn't hurt, but it doesn't help, either. FOR A GUARANTEED CATCH, WATCH THE RED-AND-YELLOW BALL FLOATING ON THE SURFACE.(Fishermen call it a "floater").AS SOON AS THE FLOATER DIPS COMPLETELY BELOW THE SURFACE OF THE WATER, PRESS THE X BUTTON. ONCE. THEN WATCH AND BE AMAZED AS TOAN PROCEEDS TO HAUL THAT BEAUTIFUL FISH IN. Some additional suggestions: 1) If you're serious about racking up fish points, and not just trying to get rid of some bait for additional item space, I'd recommend saving before you start fishing and after you catch a fish you want to keep. That way, if your bait runs out or you catch a 6-point fish, you can reset the game and you won't lose the bait. Keep in mind, however, that Dark Cloud has no soft-reset button, so you'll have to hit the button on the Playstation 2 and wait for the game to reload, which takes a while. 2) Focus on single fish only. If more than one fish is eating at your bait at once, it will run out much more quickly. Additionally, there's no way to tell which of the biting fish you'll reel in -remember, what the fish look like they're doing has very little to do with whether or not you catch them. If you're going for a big fish surrounded by lots of little fish, you could catch one of the little fish instead. 3) Be patient. Fish will rarely bite into your bait right away- they'll nibble for a while, or stop eating to circle around for another try. Don't pull out your bait until the fish either loses interest and swims far away or bites the line hard enough to pull the floater under the water. 4) Don't waste time fishing in places where the fish don't get you enough points or where they're hard to catch. Check the next two sections of this guide for the best locations. 5) The port at Queens follows its own set of rules. Check it in the next section if you're having trouble there. III Fishin' Holes These are the places where you can fish, with a difficulty rating, an account of what you have to do to get them, and a list of the types of fish that can be caught there. Difficulty ratings range from low to high, with low being the easiest and high, the hardest. They refer to how hard it is, generally, to catch a fish in that particular place. Fish ratings are listed next to the type of fish. (1) is the worst and (7), the best. For additional information on the different types of fish, see the next section. More places will be added later. NORUNE: POND (freshwater) DIFFICULTY: Low. It's very easy to catch fish here- because the pond is so small, they'll always be within reach. On the down side, it's also hard to focus on only one fish, because there are always others close by. TO GET: See Getting Started (top of the page) TYPES OF FISH: Nilers (3), Nonkies (1), Gummies (2), Gobblers (1) OVERALL: Norune Pond is good for when you're first learning how to fish, but the only big fish here are Nonkies, which don't give you many points. Stick to the medium-sized fish- you might catch a Niler, which give you a lot more points. Peanut Pond is better. MATATAKI: WATERFALL (freshwater) DIFFICULTY: Medium. Most of the water is out of reach. The fish seem to like swimming to the far end of the water or into the waterfall, where you can't get to them. Also, sometimes the fish will hide under the dock, where it's hard to see them. On the up side, there's enough space here for you to focus on single fish, and this is one of only two places in the game where you can catch Mardan Garayans. .TO GET: It's already at Matataki village when you warp there after beating the Divine Beast Cave. TYPES OF FISH: Mardan Garayan (7) [Vico and Jon B.], Nonkies (2), Baku Baku (2), Gummies (2). OVERALL: Stay away from here, unless you're trying to catch a Mardan Garayan. While the other fish can get to be very big, none of them give you many points. Fishing for anything else here is too hard to be worth the disappointment. MATATAKI: PEANUT POND (freshwater) DIFFICULTY: Low. All areas of the water are within reach, and there's enough space for you to focus on single fish. On the down side, it's hard to change the angle of view on the far side of the pond, and it can take a while for Toan to run around the pond to the other side. Sometimes the fish will hang out at the edge of the water where it's hard to see them. TO GET: The pond, which looks like a peanut from above, is already at Matataki Village when you first arrive, but it doesn't have any water in it. You'll need to find all of the pieces of the river and set them up so that they run from the waterfall to Treant before the pond will fill with water. The last river Atla is in territory 8 of the Wise Owl Forrest. TYPES OF FISH: Tartons (4), Baku Baku (2), Gobblers (1), Umadakaras (5) OVERALL: By far the best normal fishing spot so far. The medium to large fish will either be Baku Baku, which aren't bad as long as they're big, or Tartons, which give you a ton of points. Go for the big fish if you aren't using carrots. This is also the only place so far that I've been able to catch Umadakaras, which are smaller than the other fish, rare, only attracted to carrots, and unbelievably valuable. QUEENS: PORT (saltwater) DIFFICULTY: High. Ocean water is much thicker than pond water, which means that it's impossible to see the fish. You just have to cast at random and hope that a fish will bite. It's also hard to tell when to reel in the line. Generally you want to do this when the floater disappears and there are no ripples in the water. TO GET: It's already there when you reach Queens. TYPES OF FISH: Bons (2), Bobos (2), Kaji (2.5), Piccolies (3) OVERALL: Not a good place for casual fishing. About the only reason to come here is to use up saltwater-only bait. When fishing, the best thing to do is to immediately cast into the water from the center of the dock and wait for a bite. Remember that it can take a while for fish to bite your bait, so be patient and never pull your out your line to recast. Since you can't see the fish to know where you should be casting, this will accomplish nothing. Try slowly counting to 30 after you cast. If the floater doesn't move in this time, quit and retry because the fish will have scattered and some may have left. If the floater is moving and then stops, slowly count to 15 before giving it up as a lost cause. V Types of Fish and Their Point Values The fish's type determines how many points per centimeter it is worth. Each type of fish also has a specific range of size that it generally sticks to, though there are exceptions. For each fish type, I listed the typical size range, number of points per centimeter, where the fish can be found, and the type of bait it's attracted to. Fish are listed in alphabetical order by type. NOTE: Small fish are between 50 and 75 centimeters. Medium fish are between 75 and 100 centimeters. Large fish are over 100 centimeters. Common or rare refers to the type of bait used, not how much the fish is worth. Almost all common fish can be caught with gooey peaches, bomb nuts, or throbbing cherries as well as the bait listed. RATINGS: From 1 to 7, seven is the best. (7)- a super-special fish. Only the Mardan Garayan has this score. Fishing points generally range from 170 to 240 [Jon B.] (6)- a bigger fish worth a ton of points per cm. There are none of these so far. (5)- a smaller fish worth a ton of points per centimeter. Fishing points generally range from 80 to 120. (4)- a large fish worth a lot of points per cm. Fishing points generally range from 40 to 80. (3)- a smaller fish worth a lot of points per cm. Fishing points generally range from 20 to 40 (2)- a large, very common fish worth few points. Points generally range from 15 to 25. (1)- a small, very common fish worth few points. Points generally range from 5 to 15. BAKU BAKU are very common freshwater fish. They are a silver color with black stripes. SIZE RANGE: Medium to large. Sometimes very large. POINTS PER CENTIMETER: bad. (between .12 and .22 points per cm. The larger the fish, the more points per cm.) LOCATION: Matataki: waterfall & Peanut Pond BAIT: Petit fish, Mimis, Battans, Pricklies RATING: (2): Low points, Large size. BOBOS are very common saltwater fish. They're brown and plain, have large eyes, and look very stupid. SIZE RANGE: medium to large. Can be very large POINTS PER CM: bad (between .18 and .23 points. The larger the fish, the more points per cm.) LOCATION: Queens: Port BAIT: Evas, Gooey peaches RATING: (2)- low points, large size BONS are very common saltwater fish. They're light blue on the bottom fading into dark blue on top, and almost perfect spheres. SIZE RANGE: small to medium POINTS PER CM: bad (between .16 and .22 points. The larger the fish, the more points per cm. LOCATION: Queens: Dock BAIT: Evas RATING: (1)- small size, low points GOBBLERS are very common freshwater fish. They are silver all over, with large mouths and lots of quills. SIZE RANGE: Small to medium. POINTS PER CENTIMETER: bad (between .1 and .16 points per cm. The larger the fish, the more points per cm.) LOCATION: Norune: Pond, Matataki: Peanut Pond BAIT: Petit fish, Mimis, Battans, Pricklies, Bomb nuts RATING: (1)- low points, small size GUMMIES are common freshwater fish. They're small, realistic-looking, and silver. SIZE RANGE: small POINTS PER CENTIMETER: Fair ( between .2 and .3 points per cm. The larger the fish, the more points per cm.) LOCATION: Norune: Pond, Matataki: waterfall BAIT: Petit fish, Minions, Battans, Pricklies RATING: (2)- small, decent points HELLAS [Brandon] are ugly brown fish with four long fins on each side. SIZE RANGE: small to medium POINTS PER CM.: fair (around .25) LOCATION: Muska Lacka: Oasis BAIT: bomb nuts only RATING: (1.5)- bad size, not great points, and you need to use bomb nuts, which are a decent item, to catch them. KAJI are common saltwater fish. They look exactly like miniature swordfish. SIZE RANGE: medium to large, can be very large POINTS PER CENTIMETER: Fair (between .2 and .25 points per cm. The larger the fish, the more points per cm.) LOCATION: Queens: Port BAIT: Evas RATING: (2.5)- good size, decent points MARDAN GARAYANS are very rare fish. They are purple with large eyes and orange fins and eyebrows. Catching a Mardan Garayan causes the Water Fairy to offer a new weapon for Toan- the Mardan Eins, which can be purchased for 2500 fish points. It will also tell you the trap of all booby-trapped large chests. [Jon B. and Vico] SIZE RANGE: medium to large POINTS PER CENTIMETER: beyond excellent (between 1.8 and 2.2 points per cm. The larger the fish, the more points per cm.) LOCATION: Matataki: Waterfall and Muska Laka: Oasis at dusk [Vico]. That compass-like thing on the upper right hand corner of the screen in Walking Mode is one-handed clock. Dusk starts when the hand is pointing to the small dot to the right of the lowest dot, and ends when the hand is pointing to the lowest dot. Time stands still when you're not in Walking Mode (when you're fishing, for instance) [Jon B.] BAIT: Poisonous apples only RATING: (7)- the points are great, and the bonuses are great. You may not want to only fish for this, though- Mardan Garayans are rare. You may have to quit fishing and retry many times before one will show up. [Vico] NILERS are common freshwater fish. They're flat and round, like flounders. They're yellow with black stripes and spikes. SIZE RANGE: small, sometimes medium POINTS PER CENTIMETER: Good (between .3 and .42 points per cm. The larger the fish, the more points per cm.) LOCATION: Norune: Pond BAIT: Potato cakes, Petit fish, Minions, Battans, Pricklies. RATING: (3)- common, small, good points NONKIES are very common freshwater fish. They're orange-brown with large heads. SIZE RANGE: medium to large. They can be very large. POINTS PER CENTIMETER: Very bad (between .09 and .13 points per cm. The larger the fish, the more points per cm. A .13 fish is much larger than Toan.) LOCATION: Norune: Pond, Matataki: Waterfall BAIT: Petit fish, Minions, Battans, Pricklies, Bomb nuts. RATING: (1)-(2) if very large. Common, large, very bad points. TARTONS are common freshwater fish. They're green and round like basketballs, with a red shell. Extremely bizarre looking, they could be a cross between a fat turtle and a Chinese fighting fish. SIZE RANGE: all sizes. POINTS PER CENTIMETER: Good (1/2 a point per cm, rounded down to the nearest point. These are the only fish that are always worth the same number of points per cm.) LOCATION: Matataki: Peanut Pond BAIT: Potato cakes, Petit fish, Minions, Battans, Pricklies RATING: (4)- common, good size, good points UMADAKARAS are rare, vegetarian freshwater fish. They're brown and flat, with long snouts. They look like anteaters. SIZE RANGE: small to medium. POINTS PER CENTIMETER: excellent (between 1.22 and 1.28 points per cm. The larger the fish, the more points per cm) LOCATION: Matataki: Peanut Pond BAIT: Carrots only RATING: (5)- rare, smaller, fantastic points. VI Updates/Corrections If you have any additional fishing information or have noted any inaccuracies in this FAQ, feel free to contact me at DCfishingGURU@aol.com Make sure that any information you send is accurate, as I will be listing sources next to any new or changed information. Please sign you name the way you wish it to appear. This guide covers only Norune, Matataki, and Queens, with a little Muska Lacka, and will at some point in the future be expanded to include additional towns. Please don't steal any information without crediting me for it. The following people have contributed to this FAQ: Jon Blang / Vico / Brandon |
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